Marvelous Murphy

The Cherokee County court house in Murphy NC is made from locally mined marble and stands aas a monument to better days. Cherokee County is the westernmost county on the western tip of North Carolina.

In contrast to recent days, the weather was quite beautiful and we wanted to see the Murphy area before heading to Brevard NC on Monday. To get to Murphy, we drove north over two mountain ranges through Blairsville GA.

The first mountain range is where the Appalachian Trail (AT) goes from Springer Mtn. north to Maine. There is a wonderful little shop by the side of the road, which sells hiking and camping gear and all kinds of AT memorabilia.

On the second mountain range north of Blairsville we stopped for lunch at Popi's Barbecue. This is barbecue country in the mountains and we could not deny ourselves any longer. We both had a pork tenderloin barbecue sandwich which was really good.

We visited six RV parks in the Murphy area, just to see if there was any place better in scenery and lesser in cost than what we had here in Paradise Valley. We saw interesting places, but none were better.

We both enjoyed the day. It was good to get away from the routine around our RV which was very confining during the recent rains and flooding. We'll be ready to move on Monday.

Agua Alta

In the previous posting, we mentioned there was no flooding. Well, we wrote it too early. The water rose to touch the tires on our RV.

The top picture here is of the cabin across the road from us. The cabin backs up to the creek. You can see that the water is licking at the base of the cabin. The creek level rose at least six feet higher than it was while writing the previous posting.

The other photo was taken from the window of our RV. It shows that the lot next to us is completely under water. As a matter of fact, the water reached the tires on our RV. Our water and sewer hookups were under flood waters. It was an unsettling feeling to be surrounded by water.

What did we do? We sat and watched the first round of the U.S. Open tennis tournament. Marat Safin had two foot faults called on him and he went completely nuts. John McEnroe, a former champion who was announcing for NBC, came in a close second in the "nuts" department.

All in all, we must have gotten about ten inches of rain in the last two days. Dahlonega, just 20 miles to our West, reported 9.5 inches in today's rains.

Just as quickly as the creek flooded, it receded. We got out of the RV for a little while, but we both have a serious case of "cabin fever." We need to be doing something else.

Water Water Everywhere

For the last two days it has been raining in Paradise Valley -- lots of rain. Fay is the reason and the weather system covers the entire State of Georgia.

We are stuck in the RV. Just getting out the door to the car guarantees us a good soaking.

Our landlord told us he measured 4.5 inches in his rain gauge yesterday. An equal amount could be expected from last night's rain which is continuing throughout the day.

The creeks are up but not yet at flood stage. Even if there is a flood, we are quite safe. The rain is not expected to cease until tomorrow morning.

Thank goodness for the cable TV. We watched Michelle Obama and Sen. Ted Kennedy make inspiring speeches last night. Hillary Clinton is the headline speaker tonight.

Bye Bye Beijing

We have been watching a lot of the Olympics over the past two weeks. Why not? They only come around every four years.

We were totally impressed with the way China handled this event. The Chinese government spent $40 billion to put these games on and 204 countries sent athletes to compete in the games. That's very impressive.

We enjoyed watching various events, especially those which we don't see very much. For example, The gold-medal match between Hungary and the USA in water polo was very exciting. Hungary won the gold as they have in the previous two Olympics.

2008 Medal Count
Country G S B TOTAL
United States 36 38 36 110
China 51 21 28 100
Russia 23 21 28 72
Britain 19 13 15 47
Australia 14 15 17 46
Germany 16 10 15 41
France 7 16 17 40
South Korea 13 10 8 31
Italy 8 10 10 28

And the list goes on ... for a grand total of 958 medals.

We might mention in passing that Hungary won ten medals and Austria won three.

Most impressive was the sportsmanship and the respect that the athletes showed each other.

Damage Assessment

We woke up this morning to a crash, only to find that a gust of wind came along and tossed our RV awning up on the roof. What went through our minds immediately was a ripped awning, insurance claims and lots of inconvenience. Later in the day, we have since determined that our intitial thoughts were overblown (pardon the pun).

An old saying: "Think the worst and hope for the best."

The photo above shows two pieces which were damaged. The piece on the left, called a "foot patio," is made of cast aluminum and shows a rod broken right out of the middle. We went to the RV dealer in town who went out back and found the same piece in the scrap pile and gave it to us. George took off the damaged one and installed the good one this afternoon.

The other piece (white) is called a "rafter" and needs to be ordered from the manufacturer. We won't be able to deploy the awning until this rafter and other damaged pieces are replaced.

The hardest job of all was to get the awning put back together and rolled up. We couldn't have done that without the help of Dwight and Donna Wilburn who live nearby in the park and who were taking their morning walk when it happened. They immediately came over and offered to help and we are very appreciative for that.

Fortunately for us, the damage wasn't as bad as we initially thought. The cost of replacement parts is unknown but probably will not come up to our deductible. Resolved: From now on, whenever there is a wind of any kind, that awning needs to be up in its secure position.

Tallulah Gorge State Park

The Tallulah Gorge is a breathtaking chasm (over 1000 feet deep) that was carved by the Tallulah River. It took millions of years, but the result was worth the wait.

The town was named after the five falls that cascade through the Gorge. Visitors outside the area discovered the falls in 1819. Early visitors include: Vice President John C. Calhoun in 1829 and John Howard Payne, author of "Home Sweet Home" in 1835. Joseph LeConte, one of the founders of the Sierra Club made numerous visits.

By 1835, visitation of the falls had grown enough that a local resident offered lodging and food to travelers. Although it was only a rough cabin, The Tallulah Hotel was opened in 1840. When the railroad reached Tallulah Falls in 1882, the area was opened to many more tourists. At its peak there were seventeen hotels and boarding houses in and around the town.

Referred to as the Niagara of the South, there was much to do in addition to viewing the falls. The hotels rented riding horses, offered billiards, tennis, wide hammocks, and rocking chairs for front porch relaxation. At night the air was filled with music for dancing in the major hotels. On July 24, 1886, Professor Leon crossed the Gorge on a high wire, a feat that was repeated by Karl Wallenda on July 18, 1970.

After the Georgia Railway and Electric Company merged to form the Georgia Railway and Power Company, a dam was begun in 1912 to harness the raging power of the falls. In September, 1913, electricity was sent from Tallulah Falls to Atlanta.

Then, in December 1921, a fire started and burned for several days. The fire destroyed stores, hotels, and many homes. Very little that was destroyed was rebuilt. In ruins today, the Glenbrook Hotel is the only hotel that is still standing from that grand era.

Large numbers of visitors are again coming to view the splendor of the Gorge. Here they will discover a variety of delights. There is fishing and boating on 3 lakes; hiking on several trails at Tallulah Gorge State Park; a 7 mile mountain bike trail in the park, plus forest service roads; rock climbing in the Gorge (by permit issued by the State Park); swimming at Georgia Power Company's Terrora Beach and picnicking at the State Park. On Saturday night, during Spring, Summer, and Fall live bluegrass bands gather on Bluegrass Square in downtown Tallulah Falls.

Nestled in the North East corner of the beautiful Georgia Mountains, Tallulah Falls is conveniently located on Highway 441 an hour and a half northeast of Atlanta. Take I-985 north which will feed into 365 north, Highway 23, and Highway 441. Tallulah Falls is 12 miles north of Clarkesville and 12 miles south of Clayton.

The Town, named after the falls, is conveniently located on Highway 441/23 in the Northeast corner of the scenic Georgia mountians, 1 1/2 hours North of Atlanta, and 2 hours south of Asheville, NC.

Along with being the site of Tallulah Gorge State Park, our Town overflows with natural wonders, recreational opportunities, and quite an interesting history. At the dawn of the 20th Century, Tallulah Falls was a bustling resort town that rivaled Niagra Falls.

The Gem Factory

Thursday, August 21st, was a fun day of discovery. We drove over to see our friends, Lola and George, at their place on Scaly Mountain NC. Their mountain home is pictured above. The plan was to have lunch and explore Franklin NC.

One of the reasons was to check out RV parks for the 2009 season. Lola had gathered some information on 16 such places which was very helpful. We visited four or five such places in the Frankling area.

We quickly learned that RV parks, for the most part, were very tightly packed and not very neat. We couldn’t see ourselves spending a summer in any one of those which we had visited.

On the other hand there were three, which we didn’t visit, that appeared to be very spacious and pleasant. The problem seems to be price -- monthly rates averaging about $30 per day when paying on a monthly basis. That’s twice what we are paying this year in Paradise Valley.

Another reason for going to Franklin NC was to visit a rock shop. Lola suggested The Gem Factory on the south side of town on Hwy 441, shown inside and out with the other two photos above.

The Gem Factory opened its doors to retail trade in 1996, with jewelers Pedro Martinez, his wife Martha and son Chris. Lois visited with Chris and indicated that her daughter, Renee, needed a good source for her jewelry gems.

Whereupon Chris suggested that they call Renee in Florida and set up a business relationship then and there. No need for money to change hands. Chris said he was willing to send stones to Renee on an approval basis.

Renee must have been surprised as this was totally unplanned. Renee emailed her reaction today and wrote the following:

“I was surprised!! What a nice man though. Thank you for doing that for me. I think he will be a great contact. The store looks lovely from what I see on the website.”

The web site is: www.gemfactorynorthcarolina.com

To Toccoa

A Sunday drive took us to Toccoa GA today, the county seat of Stephens County with a 2000 census population of 9,300. We saw a lot of empty store fronts and other indications of urban blight.

The Old Courthouse on the square was an impressive building. It looked like it was in the middle of a complete rehab job. The photo shows how impresive this building really is.

We had no way of knowing what they plan to do with this building. It hasn’t been usede as a court fora number of years, as there is a new court facility across the street. Before the rehab project, the building was used for county office space.

There is a water falls near the town, called Toccoa Falls. They claim it is 10 feet taller than Niagara Falls, but the volume of water must be an infinitismal amount, compared toi Niagara Falls.

There is also a college in Toccoa. Many towns in northeast Georgia have a Christian (Baptist) college .

Cornelia GA

We were shopping for a toaster oven today and decided to go to Cornelia which is about 20 miles from Paradise Valley. We knew there was a Walmart in Cornelia, but were surprised to learn there was also a K-mart and Lowes. We bought our toaster oven at Lowes.

Cornelia boasts it is "The Home of the Big Red Apple." Built in 1925, it is made of steel and concrete, standing seven feet tall on top of a pedestal near the town’s beautiful train station. The photo shows both the apple, donated by a railroad, and the train station.

Trains were the reason Cornelia was established as a town after the Civil War. The area was a dense forest at that time and the timber and railroad industries contributed to the town’s growth. We saw evidence of lots of modern industry today which helps Cornelia hold its own with a population of 3,500 -- comparable to Oregon, Illinois.

We had lunch at “Fenders Diner” about a block away from the train station. Not only was the food good, the place was decorated in a 50’s style with lots of cars and Coca-Cola memorabilia. It was an interesting visual experience as well as dining.

Auction Action

We were invited by Nancy and John here in the park to go out for dinner and attend a country auction. We decided to do it as an interesting experience as we don't ordinarily go to auctions.

The auction house is located on Hwy 17 between Helen and Clarksville. Across the road is a restaurant where we had some Georgia barbecue and ice tea.

Before the auction started, they sold tickets for money. One ticket was $1; 5 tickets for $2.50; 25 tickets for$10. The line was long and tickets were going like hot cakes. One winner and the amount he won was never announced. We didn't buy in so we didn't care.

One person's junk is another's treasure and that principle was working well tonight. A crystal ash tray went for $5. We guess people still smoke; they need ash trays.

Lois thought the craziest item sold was a framed embossed foil bird for $2. The best deal in her opinion was a set of 100 hot wheel cars for $33.

We went for pure entertainment value. We didn't even register to get a bidder number.

The total revenue, we estimating, might reach $1,000 for the whole evening. We don't know for sure because we left after an hour and a half. That means the auctioneer got only $150 and he had to pay the four workers helping him. We are glad we have little interest in auctions; we don't think it is worth the effort, but we had fun watching.

Heroic Helen

We visited Helen GA today -- only 13 miles from our RV park. We’ve been there several times over the past six weeks, but we haven’t written about it yet.

Helen is a very nice town, having re-established itself with a Bavarian theme some 40 years ago. It reminds us of another Bavarian wannabee town, Leavenworth WA, which we visited a few years back.

Helen has been here since the Cherokees occupied the valley before 1800. Gold was discovered just a few miles out of town in 1828. About 1900 it was a timber town. Then in the 1950’s and 60’s it was a dying town, but tourists were going through Helen on their way to some place else in these mountains.

The town fathers wanted to do something to save the town. Local businessmen, like Jim Wilkins and Pete Hodkinson, talked and talked. They asked local artist, John Kollock, for ideas and Kollock did some sketches of local buildings, giving them an alpine Bavarian look. The idea caught on.

In the Welcome Center (shown on one of the photos above) there is a room devoted to then-and-now photos. It’s amazing. Even the U.S. Post Office has a Bavarian look. It was fun to view past and present photographs of exisiting buildings in Helen. It is unconfirmed, but we were told that the city passed laws requiring the Bavarian look on all its buildings.

One owner went so far as to include a windmill (shown in another photo above). A windmill in Bavaria? Sure. Why not? There is a windmill in Podersdorf, Burgenland, Austria, so it makes sense if there is a windmill in the Bavarian Alps and Helen GA.

There is a lot to see and do in Helen. One thing a visitor cannot avoid is the number of “tubing” companies which charge about $15 to rent a tune to float down the Chattahoochie River which flows right through the town of Helen. (The photo show one such company with it’s mountain of tubes.)

Millions of visitors come to Helen every year. The charm is still there, but many of the buildings can use a can of paint or two. Many of the murals have faded from the UV rays. Maybe the town fathers can do something about that, too.

Satisfying Social Needs

Today our friends, Lola and George fromScaly Mountain NC, came over for a social visit. We met at the town square in Cleveland at noon and went to lunch at Rick’s about a mile south of the square.

We spent the morning doing laundry. Everything seemed to work out perfectly.

We were discussing our day over dinner tonight. We both agree that taking time for social needs is an important thing to do. Both of us enjoy visiting with friends without any agenda, just being friends and swapping stories. That’s what we did today.

We have some friends who need to be booked up doing something all the time -- every day. We are not like that, having spent so much time serving people professionally. We need more time for ourselves so we try for more balance in our lives.

Nancy and John from Ormond Beach FL have turned out to be good friends in the park here at Paradise Valley. They are of similar age and interests so we get together a few times a week. We’ve been out to dinner and plan to do it again.

So we feel pretty good this evening. Maybe “contented” is a better word.

Trying Truett McConnell

We have driven by this college campus east of Cleveland GA many times this summer. We heard from several folks at Paradise that the college serves a Sunday lunch and that it is well worth trying. So that's what we did today for $8.25 each. We saw several familiar faces from Paradise Valley.

The variety of food was awesome and it looked good, too. Unfortunately, the best we can say about the culinary skills of their effort is "very institutional" with vegetables very overdone and the meat dishes very bland.

The college has been in Cleveland about 50 years and offers four degree programs -- two in music, one education and one liberal arts program. The campus occupies 200 acres and is beautifully situated.

If you are interested, check it out: www.truett.edu

Doing Dahlonega

We took a ride today and ended up in Dahlonega, county seat of Lumpkin County. Dahlonega is about 20 miles from Paradise Valley and we took the back roads.

Other folks had the same idea, especially the ones with bikes. They bring their bike from Atlanta and park on a wide spot in the road. We had to share the road today and try to enjoy the mountain scenery at the same time.

Dahlonega has been around for a long time as it was the town where the mint was located when gold was discovered in 1828. Some $6 million in gold was mined and minted here. The old Courthouse is now a very interesting Gold Museum, which we visited back in April when we visited to scout out the area.

Today we did Dahlonega by starting at the Visitor’s Center and working our way around the town square. The shops are very interesting and invite a lot of browsing if not buying. We spent a bit of time in the General Store which had all kinds of goodies for sale.

One wall of the General Store was devoted to old signs. Lois is in one of the photos with the signs on the wall.

Another photo shows a blue-grass band sitting around on chairs playing music on the old Courthouse plaza. It seemed more like a jam session where one musician would take over with a solo until someone else stepped up. Sounded good, but it wasn't Mozart.

We had lunch at Dante's on the Square and watched the people walking her and there. This town is a straight shot from the Atlanta area on Hwy 400/19. We enjoyed the day very much.

Beijing from NE Georgia

We are not just living in the past here in NE Georgia; we had to take time off to watch the Opening Ceremony of the 2008 summer olympic games in Beijing. We had to make note of it in our blog. It is part of our summer of 2008.

The spectacle put on by the Chinese was very creative and spared no expense. The 2008 drummers working in sync was so impressive. The special effects and fireworks were overwhelming.

No doubt we'll be watching the sporting competitions over the next few weeks.

Clarkesville Tour

The top photo is the Mauldin House -- a large Victorian cottage of the 1880's and #5 on the Clarkesville Tour. The City owns the building and uses it as a Visitor Center and office for the Chamber of Commerce. Joy Lovell has created a wonderful museum of what life was like 130 years ago. The Mauldin Family lived in this house until 1990.

The middle photo is inside the Millinery Shop built for Mrs. Mauldin back in the day right there on the property. Joy Lovell, our guide, encouraged Lois to try on old lady's hats. That was fun. That's Joy on the left. We were amazed to learn the Joy is 14 years younger than Lois.

The bottom photo is of the Grace-Calvary Episcopal Church, #6 on the tour, which was established in 1839. This church was completed in 1842 and appears to be perfectly preserved.

Being here and taking in this scene was like stepping back in time.

There are 19 stops on the Clarkesville Tour, many of which are privately owned and not open to the public. The most outstanding of these is a Greek Revival mansion, called Charm House, on Washington Street. It is for sale, in case you are interested.

This was a great way to spend a day. We had a very nice lunch at the "Market Cafe." We talked about the depth of knowledge that Joy Lovell displayed. It was almost overwhelming.

Joy told us, "I could tell you a story about every item and piece of paper displayed in this visitor center."

In comparing notes over lunch, we had the same thought, "Thanks, but no thanks, Joy."

Joy was as hospitable and friendly as any Georgian could be. It was a real pleasure.

Habersham County

We decided to travel 15 miles over to Habersham County today and we had no idea what or whom we were going to run into. Habersham County ranks 111th out of the 159 counties in Georgia with a population of 35,000 or so from the 2000 census. We stopped at the Habersham Chamber of Commerce and met Joy Lovell, an information guide there.

Clarkesville GA (pop. 1,300) is the county seat and the largest town in Habersham County. We were curious about the name, “Habersham,” and had no idea we would find out in spades. Joy Lovell is a veritable walking encyclopedia of Habershaam County who lives in the summer home built by Joseph Habersham(1751-1815) after whom the county is named. The home is reputedly the oldest one in Habersham County and is shown in one of the photos above(must have been renovated several times in the last 190 years).

Joy showed us an 1819 log cabin. In the photo she is talking with Lois on the front porch of the cabin. In the 1820’s the owner, according to Joy, was taken to Court because the cabin encroached on someone else’s property. The judge ruled appropriately and required the cabin to be dismantled and moved.

Back to Joseph Habersham, he was quite a character. He opposed his father who was a Tory Governor of the Georgia Colony. He was born in Savannah GA and spent his summers in later years in Habersham County. Here is a list of his accomplishments:

· Member of the General Assembly of the State of Georgia, serving twice as Speaker of the House

· Delegate to the Continental Congress (1785-1786)

· Member of the Convention which ratified the Federal Constitution (1788)

· Member of the city council of Savannah (1790-1791), during which he delivered an address of welcome to President George Washington during his visit to Savannah (1791)

· Mayor of Savannah (1792-1793)

· First federal Postmaster-General of the United States (appointed by President Washington) (1795-1801)

· After his retirement from politics, in 1802 the colonel became president of the Branch Bank of the United States in Savannah. He kept his position until his death on November 17, 1815.

The information above was taken from “The Hills of Habersham” by Mary L. Church, and “Men of Mark in Georgia” by William J. Northen.

The Old Sautee Store

We had lunch today at “The Old Sautee Store.” This is one of a handful of pre-1900 retail establishments still standing in northeast Georgia.

When it was built in 1873 it was a true general store. Local residents would come to the store to purchase food, seed, or farm equipment. Lois’photo was taken in the old part of the store.

The Old Sautee Store served as a local post office for Sautee-Nachoochee until 1913 and as post office for Sautee until 1962. Loss of the mail contract in 1962 meant hard times for the owners, who sold the store in the early 1970's. The new post office is only a block away.

Astrid Fried, a native of Norway purchased the store in 1974 and began to sell various items from her country in the store while preserving the post office area as a museum of sorts. Now a guy from Peoria IL owns it and he stocks beautiful amber and silver jewelry from Russia. We bought a half-wheel of Farmer Cheese, imported from Sweden.

Otherwise the store is a beautiful three rooms of goods for liesure time. There is a camping gear section, men’s and women’s outdoor clothing sections featuring labels from Croc’s, Woolrich and Columbia.

There was lots of other neat stuff for liesure-time activities like candles, napkins, walking sticks and books. I was particularly taken by a colorful book on mountain cabins (would love to build one).

The store is located in the Nacoochee Valley Historic District at the intersection of the Nacoochee and Sautee Valleys of Northeast Georgia. Through the Nacoochee Valley and directly in front of the store ran the old Unicoi Turnpike(now Hwy 76), a major thoroughfare from the navigatable end of the Tugaloo River to the Unicoi Mountains of East Tennessee.

After nearly 135 years the old store still retains the characteristics of the Old Days with its deep, rich golden brown hues of aged wood. In the front one can still see the past in the memorable displays of days gone by, while finding many "new" general store items such a old-time candy, specialty foods, house-wares, gifts, apparel and jewelry in the back additions to this proud old one-of-a-kind establishment.

The lunch is served next door in a log cabin structure. We had a Cuban black bean soup and half a home-made beef sandwich on rye. This was out second time there for lunch, but the first time we visited inside the store.

If you are ever in the area, we recommend you visit The Old Sautee Store.

Weaver Wonders

This is a cabin on the side of a road -- Hwy. 129 North of Cleveland on the way to Blairsville GA. We stopped there for tomatoes as there was a huge sign calling attention to tomatoes.

What we found was a huge loom -- foot powered -- and handmade weaving wonders all over the place. We met the man, Mr. Knaus, who created all these weavings. He’s selling tomatoes out of his garden.

When we first stopped, Mr. Knaus wasn’t home.He had gone to Gainesville for his chemo treatment. He had “seconds” sitting in a basket on the front porch with a sign sayhing “69 cents/lb.” We picked out a few and took them home and weighed them with the intention of going back and to pay for them.

A few days later we did return and told Mr. Knaus we took his tomatoes and wanted to pay for them. Lois spotted a table runner with matching place mats. For these the price was right but 100X greater than the 80 cents we owed for the tomatoes.

Mr. Knaus was very forthright, being a man in his 70’s. He told us he was battling cancer for the second time and it is his intention to keep on doing what he loves to do -- weaving.

“This is where I live and work,” Knaus said, showing me his loom which took up at least 8’ x 10’.

Mr. Knaus was setting up for a table cloth run. He will weave six of them on one set-up.

“It takes me two days on average to do a set up, “ he said, “and every thread has to be just right, because one thread out of place ruins the whole job.”

Mr. Knaus had 18 yards of thread laid out and tied together in groups for his table cloth run. It will take two or three days of weaving to finish each table cloth. We wondered what his labor was worth because his weaving seemed to be very reasonably priced.

In addition to table cloths and runners, Mr. Knaus weaves bed and crib coverlets, lap robes and rugs. Looking around, we also spotted several shawls that Mr. Knaus had woven on traditional colonial patterns. Lois and I took a liking to Mr. Knaus immediately.

In talking with friends at Paradise Valley, we quickly learned that Mr. Knaus’ tomatoes are the best in this entire area. As long as they are in season, we’ll be buying our tomatoes from Mr. Knaus.

New Location

On August 1st we moved our location within Paradise Valley Campground. It all went smoothly.

We moved from Lot 69 near the front gate and swimming pool to Lot 254 down in the valley near the trout stream. The former lot was on the side of a mountain; the new lot is as flat as a pancake.

The reason for the change was availability of these rental lots. We couldn’t get two consecutive months in the same lot. Not a problem for us as we welcome the change in scenery.

The scenery in our first spot offered a lot of buildings and roads to look at, including the traffic in and out of the park. The scenery in our new location is very green, even though we also see RV’s and cabins.

We liked our first location with its concrete pad, deck and screen house. We also like our new spot with its gravel drive and pad and the shade of the maple trees. We also seem to be in a friendlier neighborhood, although the first location was not unfriendly.

The first location gave us access to the Internet and cell phone connection. Now we are in a black hole with a one-bar, weak connection to a wifi. Now we have to back up on the hill to get on the Internet or make a phone call, which is a bit inconvenient.